UPDATED - Chuck Missler confronted by Ephesians 5:11 Blog

Chuck Missler confronted by Ephesians 5:11 Blog


John 3:19-21 – “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

This is a video of an account of what took place at the Pikes Peak Prophecy Summit in Colorado Springs on the morning of July 28th when Chuck Missler was confronted on David Barton & Ergun Caner. It was a very public setting in the hallway of the Marriott Hotel among all the “merchandising tables” with hotel busboys pushing their carts right in the middle of us.

People were standing around listening to the whole exchange.





CLICK HERE to watch above video on YouTube Channel


Matthew 7:15-20 –Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (NOT “BROTHERS IN THE LORD”!!!)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Acts 20:28-31 –Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which He hath purchased with His own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.”

Notice how Jesus & the Apostle Paul did NOT refer to these guys as brothers, followers, etc.

Ravenous wolves - Grievous wolves - Men, speaking perverse things

Ephesians 5:6-7 - "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them."

To Chuck Missler –
Chuck, I am the guy that introduced myself to you the morning of Sunday, July 28th at the Marriott Hotel in Colorado Springs that reminded you of the Steeling The Mind Conference 19 years ago, how I had talked with your wife as we all ran for cover in the mountain top rain storm that suddenly appeared. You said you remembered that moment.

There was another guy (the real tall guy) that was pointing out your latest “Personal Update” advertisement of you selling David Barton’s “Founders Bible”.

This man was trying to tell you how David Barton was an exposed liar and you fired back that he needed doucumented proof. This man said he had documented proof and then you asked him if he had done a “Matthew 18” with David Barton?

Matthew 18:15-17 –Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Remember what Jesus said in Matthew 7:15-20 –Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Then Jesus went on to describe the “false church” in Matthew 7:21-23 –Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.


According to the Word of God, the church needs to examine the fruit FIRST of someone who claims to be a brother before we consider them a brother.


If someone who claims to be a brother is bearing the bad fruit of purposely unrepentant lying, I do not consider that person a brother, neither should anyone else. Where is the love of God in John 14:15? The ROTTENpurposeful lying to a Christian audience for many years” fruit does not grow on a good tree.
We are to watch out for each other as the Apostle Paul stated in Ephesians 6:18 –Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

While you were talking to the other guy, that’s when I introduced myself and I told you that I did have the documented proof of David Barton, in fact the whole world has the DOCUMENTED PROOF as it is contained on my website. I told you in great detail that I had three documented clips on three different occasions in three different years of David Barton actually CHANGING THE WORDS to the “John Adams Letter” in order to persuade the Christian audience that John Adams was a Christian when in fact John Adams was mocking Christianity.

Here is the “video document” of what’s mentioned above –




CLICK HERE to watch above video on YouTube Channel

CLICK HERE to see DOCUMENTED FACTS on David Barton

When you detected that I was going in to great detail on the documented facts, you used the clever “Matthew 18” tactic on me as well.

This misuse of the Word of God is exactly what Satan used on Jesus. You used the Matthew 18 tactic to deflect and turn it around on me. It sounds very spiritual, but if one doesn’t have the discernment in the heat of the moment, they will be fooled.

As you were being confronted with not only David Barton, I also mentioned to you Ergun Caner who stated he was born in Istanbul, Turkey and also born in Stockholm, Sweden. That was right after Gordon MacDonald stepped in to the “circle” that had formed in the very public “merchandising table” area hallway.

Here is the documented proof you asked for on Ergun Caner –



CLICK HERE to watch above video on YouTube Channel


CLICK HERE to see DOCUMENTED FACTS on Ergun Caner

You continued to use the clever “Matthew 18” tactic in order to deflect attention away from you.

I told you the witness of the church was being destroyed by these two men.

BEGINNING OF 8/10/2013 UPDATE
Ergun Caner posts a BOGUS statement right after he was busted but right before a plethora of more documented evidence came out. SBC Today posted Caner's February 25, 2010 but Caner himself removed it from his own website -
To read the remaining of the above CLICK HERE

Ergun Caner's own website on the WAYBACK Archive CLICK HERE

To Ergun Caner and Gordon McDonald from Ephesians 5:11 Blog -

Misstatements vs. Lying 



Your phony February 25, 2010 statement that you pulled down from your own website may be able to fool the disobedient to the Word of God, non-wise as serpents, non-Berean, men-trusting, simple (gullible) sheep that dishonor the name of Jesus Christ by their own disobedience – but you are not getting away with anything at all.


Ergun Caner, what’s it like when?


1.) You know you lied

2.) The world knows you lied

3.) The overwhelming documented evidence is there for the world to see that you lied

4.) You with your supporter, Chuck Missler, pretend everything is OK? That’s got to be weird.

What about you Gordon McDonald at Koinonia House Coeur d'Alene, Idaho?
 


What’s it like to “cover” for Ergun Caner?

What sort of “mental games of articulation” do you have to play with sincere Christians when the Ergun Caner/Koinonia Institute “Board of Regents” issue pops up every now & then? What’s it like? It has to be tough.

Deuteronomy 32:4 – “He is the Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He.”

Do you think the God of Truth wants us to “cover” for Ergun Caner? Or David Barton? Or guys like them?

 END OF 8/10/2013 UPDATE

This is how the witness is destroyed

When unbelievers know that David Barton & Ergun Caner are purposely lying to the church audiences and the church audiences have no idea they are being lied to, it destroys the witness of the church to those very unbelievers.

It’s true the church audience is being disobedient by not being wise as serpents, not being as the Bereans, and blindly trusting men without examining the fruit – so the church audience does bear responsibility here.

Having said that, how can an unbeliever who knows the truth about David Barton & Ergun Caner purposeful lying be witnessed to by the church who are unaware they are being lied to by David Barton & Ergun Caner?

The witness of “ALL TRUTH” has been effectively neutralized by Satan through the sin of the church audience and the purposeful lying by David Barton & Ergun Caner.



With you hosting David Barton last October 2012 in Idaho and you having Ergun Caner listed on the “Board of Regents” in your 2013 Kononia Institute Student Handbook, you are giving “safe harbor” and credibility to two blatant, unrepentant, exposed liars.


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You, Chuck Missler, whether you realize this or not, are helping Satan to destroy the witness of the church by your promotion of two exposed liars. To be fair, the church audience bears responsibility for their disobedience to the Word of God, but so do you for allowing the “other part” of that “church witness destroyingtransaction to take place.

The Lord knows you know about David Barton and Ergun Caner.

You may be able to fool me, my blinded brethren and the rest of the world, but not the Lord.

With you promoting two exposed liars, you are the antithesis of 1 Timothy 3:15 –

“…the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”


You Chuck Missler, and all the other alleged “leaders” (like Brian Brodersen at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa that still has Ergun Caner on staff at Veritas Seminary) that REFUSE to acknowledge the 8+ years of purposeful lying by Ergun Caner & at least 3+ years of purposeful lying by David Barton to the Christian audiences are NOT getting away with anything.



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Maybe in your own minds you really do believe you are getting away with it but you are all fooling yourselves. The very fact that you ALL PRETEND the facts don’t exist really exposes yourselves. It’s very easy to see.

You Chuck Missler, along with David Barton and Ergun Caner are NOT the pillar and ground of the truth. Not now anyway, however the Lord desires for ALL to come to repentance. There still is a chance for you all to make things right with the Lord.

2 Peter 3:9 – The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

I was led by the Holy Spirit to deliver to you, a message of warning. It’s been delivered.

The Lord delivered it.

Isaiah 8:13 – “Sanctify the Lord of hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.”

Luke 12:4-5 –And I say unto you My friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear Him.

John 15:14 –Ye are My friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 14:15 –If ye love Me, keep My commandments.

Romans 1:5 –By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for His name”

Acts 5:32 – “And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.

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